Alas Pierre, we hardly knew ye

As you start to leave the gutted pikeman, Felix says
Remember kiddies, the next two nights are crucial. Alice can't find out what we are planning. Also I don't care what you plan for Baxter and Mieke, just keep them from interfering. Lastly if you have any questions, I will be here. Marcus will be at Pierre's court, keeping up appearances. You lot stay away from there until we are ready to go.

So I am assuming by the lack of posts that nobody has any ideas about plans for the next session.
I am happy to have Marcus and Felix make all the plans, but you probably won't want that :-P

fucker it has been two days, calm your tits.

Sorry. I guess I am just a little keen.

Bribe some Nosferatu with The Black Death/Plague to create some panic. Target the feeding areas of the Prince, or his consorts, but don't limit it to that area. Ensure it doesn't get out of hand by eliminating rats in the general vicinity with some Gangrel animalism control, or cats.
The offer: Toxify the Thames, increase the smell and precipitate the Great Stink (by 20 years) to make sewers for the Nosferatu; Have Ventrue influence on the planning and put in Nosferatu "condominiums" installed throughout the works. Use the whole system as a secret travelling world with a dry sub-sewer network, known as Down Below that will be a cheap feeding ground on tramps.

Plant some red herrings, elaborate enough to waste Alice's time. But don't flood her with them, that will arouse a greater suspicion. Rumours of past undefeated foes sniffing about the edges. Use legitimate threats from other forces, like Sonny, that will have Alice looking in the other direction.
Assassinate one or two of Alice's mundane espionage ghouls, be they in The Home Office or military influence, to weaken her mortal world dealings. An inconvenient removal of her mortal world eyes and ears will mean she'll have to spend time finding a new candidate or two... or 4.

Lets a assume for a min that i have no idea what we are actually doing in game.

Who are Alice, Baxter and Mieke again?

wait, i figured out who Mieke and Baxter are. Is Alice the spy master?

Romnipotent wrote:

Bribe some Nosferatu with The Black Death/Plague to create some panic. Target the feeding areas of the Prince, or his consorts, but don't limit it to that area. Ensure it doesn't get out of hand by eliminating rats in the general vicinity with some Gangrel animalism control, or cats.
The offer: Toxify the Thames, increase the smell and precipitate the Great Stink (by 20 years) to make sewers for the Nosferatu; Have Ventrue influence on the planning and put in Nosferatu "condominiums" installed throughout the works. Use the whole system as a secret travelling world with a dry sub-sewer network, known as Down Below that will be a cheap feeding ground on tramps.

Not a bad plan, but you have two days. You may be able to get this started in two days, but it will take a lot longer than that to reach fruition.

Matt wrote:

Who are Alice, Baxter and Mieke again?

https://fatdicks.forumotion.com/t548-political-environment-in-london-in-1832

Matt wrote:

wait, i figured out who Mieke and Baxter are.  Is Alice the spy master?

Yes

Can't we just murder them?

HappyNoodleBoy wrote:

Romnipotent wrote:

Bribe some Nosferatu with The Black Death/Plague to create some panic. Target the feeding areas of the Prince, or his consorts, but don't limit it to that area. Ensure it doesn't get out of hand by eliminating rats in the general vicinity with some Gangrel animalism control, or cats.
The offer: Toxify the Thames, increase the smell and precipitate the Great Stink (by 20 years) to make sewers for the Nosferatu; Have Ventrue influence on the planning and put in Nosferatu "condominiums" installed throughout the works. Use the whole system as a secret travelling world with a dry sub-sewer network, known as Down Below that will be a cheap feeding ground on tramps.

Not a bad plan, but you have two days. You may be able to get this started in two days, but it will take a lot longer than that to reach fruition.

It's an investment for the NoS for a longterm power increase.

I say we still try and start a fire but maybe try and keep it localised, maybe just in Alice's feeding grounds?

Romnipotent wrote:

It's an investment for the NoS for a longterm power increase.

I understand that. But the point is, what exactly are you going to do over the next two days? What do you want to do to get your plan started?

Matt wrote:

Can't we just murder them?

This is a valid option. You weren't told you couldn't.

Susso wrote:

I say we still try and start a fire but maybe try and keep it localised, maybe just in Alice's feeding grounds?

Not a bad idea. But Alice is a primogen, they have very specific feeding grounds, and guard the jealously. Starting the fire may be harder than you think.

How hard can starting a fire be? So what if she's a primogen, I'm sure all 4 of us CAN TAKE HER.

Or we just go with Matt's idea and just slaughter everyone in her feeding grounds.

Susso wrote:

How hard can starting a fire be? So what if she's a primogen, I'm sure all 4 of us CAN TAKE HER.

Lol. Alice would kill all of you without trying.

Ok, 4 of us = no. How about all 5 of us then?

Susso wrote:

Ok, 4 of us = no. How about all 5 of us then?

Still no. If you could kill someone like Alice you would be ruling your own city.

Time is running out. Which plan are you guys going to go with?
What do you want to do over the next two days to set your plan into motion?

Susso wrote:

How hard can starting a fire be?

Ok so actually starting the fire should be relatively easy. What I was hinting at was that getting caught starting a fire in alices feeding grounds would result in the exact opposite of what marcus and felix want. So make sure you hire (or possibly compel ) someone else to do it.

How about we hire someone to start the fire (as you suggested) but using Romney's contacts, put a rumour out there to Alice that the fire has been/is going to be started by someone Alice is looking for? Then hopefully she will "gad about" looking for whoever it is and hence she will be distracted. I REALLY REALLY want to start a fire !

Susso wrote:

How about we hire someone to start the fire (as you suggested) but using Romney's contacts, put a rumour out there to Alice that the fire has been/is going to be started by someone Alice is looking for? Then hopefully she will "gad about" looking for whoever it is and hence she will be distracted. I REALLY REALLY want to start a fire !

You most definitely can try to do that.  
So what exactly over these next two days do you want to do to make this happen?
Describe to me exactly what you want to do.


As for what you told me on saturday romney, exact same question. describe to me exactly step by step what you are going to do over the next two days?

I am assuming caitlin is just waiting for the fight.  That will be her contribution killing the hounds.

shamus what are you planning?

matt I know you have said you most likely wont be there, but you can still do something over the next two days and still get some xp? so if there is anything you wanna do, you still can.

also dont forget baxter and mieke need to be dealt with as well? just a note, you would all be well aware that baxter was the seneschal for the previous prince as well, and that he made a deal with the new prince to keep his position. This is common knowledge amongst vampires, and as for mieke, well romney I am surprised that you were not jumping for the chance to do your honeypot.

Who are Alice's ghouls and what do they do? How long have they been her ghoul? Has she boasted about any of them? Which one has a high value but could be replaced if they were deaded? Which are worth a lot, and would be difficult to replace, to be hidden away, and fake killed?

Who is her preferred blood doll?

Is there a particular werewolf she would hate the most? Does that lycan have a calling card? Where would that werewolf likely hide so we may leave red herring clues.

Do any Nosferatu have The Black Plague? If someone is drained nearly near death, and infected they will fall ill fast. Within a day there will be panic in London, giving a lot of background noise that Alice would have to filter through; keeping her on track of the false trail after her ghoul killing werewolf.

HappyNoodleBoy wrote:

also dont forget baxter and mieke need to be dealt with as well? just a note, you would all be well aware that baxter was the seneschal for the previous prince as well, and that he made a deal with the new prince to keep his position. This is common knowledge amongst vampires, and as for mieke, well romney I am surprised that you were not jumping for the chance to do your honeypot.

Can I get some IC solid info on Baxter and Mieke, would prefer spoon feeding instead of some information hunting

Baxter has a lot of property to acquire, subterranean estates. Security under parliament is tight since Guy Fawkes went all kaboomy attempting. But if we cultivate a horrid smell we'll precipitate the sewers by 26 years.

Mieke, have we ever crossed flirtatious smirks at court?